StoryGirl83

It's nice to hear from you. I absolutely don't mind you doing so. I'm happy to have someone to chat with on these books.

So AtV first. I was not thrilled with the ending. It felt far too abrupt. I get that it was canceled. As you said, that's pretty clear, but I think they could have done more with the ending, giving us an epilogue for each choice. Even with the sacrifice route, they could have shown Eos and Pax afterward. I picked the option to give it to both groups and I am currently playing it again. I am disappointed in the ending, but I still love the story over all.

I hear you about Dom's romances. Personally I like him best with Sei and I really wish he could have actually ended up with her, so I think it's a pity they went that route. Overall though it is my favorite series for many reasons and since the romance wasn't so much a big deal to me, it's only a minor annoyance that Dom can't end up with someone other than Kenna. Besides I can pretend that he did. I don't think it says that he doesn't, just never says that he does.

I'm caught up on two: The Royal Heir and Desire & Decorum. I have read chapter one of BSC2 and while I'm still not a super fan, I have to say it starts off decently and I did enjoy the first chapter. Now I just need the rest of the book to impress me and I might change my mind about the series.

Glad to hear it. :)

Yeah, I hear you. It was a very disappointing ending. I still love the story, but the ending don't make me want to replay it.

I agree that Dom's romace is only a minor annoyance. That's why I said it was the only bad thing I could think about TC&TF. Which of the 3 books is your favourite? I'm pretty excited about the possibility of a spin-off.

I dropped The Royal Heir and I decided to not read D&D's book 3 after its book 2. I was never really a fan of TRR, but I thought it became good around the end of book 2 and book 3 was a decent read overall. But I was against a new sequel to it. It was obvious the writers had plans to actually end it with book 3. They only did TRH because of the fans asking for it. Exactly the opposite of what happened with AtV, huh?

I was reading your lists on favorite series and less than favored. We have some very similar tastes overall, with some difference of opinion on some series. It's no wonder we're big fans of AtV and TE 2.

I warned the user. Let me or any of the other admins know if this keeps up.

Sure. Go ahead. Sorry. I am back from vacation, but just before my vacation my brother bought me a late birthday present in the form of replacing my XBox 360 and after I got back, I repurchased one of my favorite games on it that has vanished at some point or another, Lost Odyssey. I've been playing a lot of that and enjoying it, but sure, do ahead and make those. While I am on and before I go back to the game, I'll see what I can do about the male and female characters. Sound good?

I have made the subpages for women and men. There are only six entries left on the page, so it should be easy for you if you want to make the Nonbinary and Miscellaneous. Currently I have the tabs in the order they appear, which means that Miscellaneous goes before Nonbinary and animals goes before both of those along with before children. What are your thoughts on that.

Sounds good to me! I won’t be able to make the pages til tomorrow but if you’re on and back and want to work on them, you don’t have to wait for me. I was trying to alleviate any of your workload (I wasn’t sure when you’d be back). :) and there’s more to add to those pages with the new misc characters that have shown up...

I'm off at least for the rest of the night. I'm wondering, if we should have a section at the bottom that gives the links for the subpages so that people wanting to edit once we are actually done with all this setup can find them easily. Or perhaps at the top of each tab: To add more entries or look-a-likes to this section, click here. That kind of thing.

We could do that but it does show up when they start typing in the search field too? Up to you! I'm all for anything that makes it easier. :)

That's true, it does, huh. I forgot about that. I still think it might be a good idea to include the links in some unobtrusive way, but you are right about the search bar. I had forgotten that.

I wonder why Robbie is on the female subpage? Is there something I missed lol? (I would fix it for you if I knew how)

Lol. I can fix it tonight unless someone else beats me to it.

Sorry about that. I was moving groups of sections at once and apparently grabbed him when I was moving the women off the main page (which I did first). Thanks for catching that. He's been moved to the men's page now.

I found it rather funny to see him disguising himself lol

There will probably be some more cases of familiar face models from older books coming up. I am currently replaying HSS and came across some (see Pics and Bacon thread). Some users also already added a few recent cases but not all of them. There were several cases in the last few days alone...

We still need to add the newer ones too, right? Like from the latest chapters of BSC, D&D3, etc? In D&D3 premium scene, Ward as a Redcoat has no hat! ;)

I don't know when the two of you stopped working on the page. Ever since that point, I would say, just to be safe that no one slips away lol

It is kind of funny. I don't blame him. I'd get as far away from his dad as possible, too. (Although I don't recall his dad actually being on that page . . . surely he's been reused at some point.)

Yeah. We kind of took a hiatus while I was out on my vacation and out of internet access most of the day and only accessing via my iPad, but yeah, we do have a bunch more. And if you find some in the older books, let us know.

I found this (https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/TabViewEditLinks) that lets you edit the page in each tab from the main page. We can add it to the MediaWiki if you want, or just  leave it as is.

That would be lovely. I will take a look at it and see if I can figure out how to handle adding that. Right now, I am adding some characters that were commented on in the comment section (if you can't tell by how much that page is dominating the Recent Wiki Activity), but thanks for finding that.

I'm asking Sel if she's okay with this since it involves changing code to the wikia, which is a big deal, but I definitely love the idea.

I opened the page because according to the wiki activity, you posted a comment... and found that the females are on the first tab which still causes some lagging because probably most reused faces are female... it's better than before, but the page still has problems to find the actual comment lol. All in all, it's better than before but maybe there's a way to make it even better?

We could put Cameron's tab first. One image, probably would help, but it might look a little strange since Cameron doesn't appear until much later in the game in general. Or we could come up with some sort of intro tab that just has words. Not sure what it might say. Maybe a tab that specifically compares two images, such as the first nonidentical reused face . . . of which there are least three examples in Most Wanted, so one of those maybe . . . which would be Otis and the Pilot I believe.

I was going to suggest if you think females should be separated to females page 1 and page 2, where page 1 carries the first 50-60 faces and page 2 would carry the rest. If you think that might help the lag? Same possibly for males?

That would further improve the lagging. Dividing all the pages into groups of 50 sounds good.

We can try that, but if we do we may have to keep moving them about as we find new ones being used from older characters. It also will soon mean that we will probably have three pages each for men and women. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, it's a good idea. Just be aware of the need to move stuff around to different pages as we find more. I'm good with trying that. If you want, I can make the change right now.

It's fine with me. :) chronological seems to work the best. Can't really divide it by age or brunette vs blonde or any other factor unless by series? But that sort of goes under chronological.

Hmm. There are way too many series to do that by and some we don't know hair color, so no that doesn't work, but we could potentially divide the books into groups, maybe women first seen in 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. It would make several more pages, but it definitely would cut down on lag and not make us have to keep moving people around as we found new ones. They would go on the page for their year no matter when that was.

And if it's too many tabs, we could always try tabbing the tabs. Have the woman tab and then have sub tabs under that for each year.

Thoughts?

If you can tab tabs, that's good for me. :)

We can tab tabs. I've seen it done. I think it's pretty easy to do, but I won't know until I try. I did get the okay from Sel to add the code SonsuzEvren found, so it should easier to edit the tabs now or at least quicker.

Yeah, it will be much quicker.

And tabbing tabs sounds great lol.

If tabbing tabs working in mobile version, I am fine with tabbing tabs... tabs?

I will try it and then you can let me know if it works for you or not. To start with I will just add two tabs to a tab, that way we can figure out if it works or not. If it works, then I'll add more.

Well, that's not it. I'm going to try and see if I can fix this. If not, I'll try something else.

Wow, it's like a lag machine, it's constantly creating "2016 2017 2018 2019". It truly lags now lol.

Let's hope you can find another solution.

I have an idea I am working on, because yeah, that's bad. I should be able to show it shortly. It will work with desktop, but the question is, will it work with mobile, so I am doing some extra steps to try and make it work with that as well. And then it still might not, but we'll see.

Now it looks funny with each year having three edit buttons... curious about the end result.

It looks nice! And it doesn't lag, or at least on my pc.

Three, yeeks. That's worse than the two on my screen. Still doing some things to try for mobile.

At the moment what I am doing is tabview in tabber, because tabview can't do tabs in tabs and tabview doesn't work on mobile, so using either to stack won't work, so I'm trying both. If that doesn't work, I have another idea, which is blanking in my mind right now, but if this doesn't work, I've got one.

Lol, on my screen it alternated between two and three, but now I only see one.

And the tabview in tabs looks good.

Okay, I have both men and women as tabs in tabs. I could do the others if we want that. The main reason being I don't know how this looks on mobile and all of the others combined might be all loading together. If that's the case, we probably want to do it at least with animals.

If this doesn't work, I will try to remember the other idea I had. So Andisimon, how does this load for you and over all, how do you guys think this looks?

On desktop looks nice. But on mobile... The horror! Normal tabs don't work so whatever was in them is now flooding the whole page.

For me mobile version looks

2016

2017

2018

2019

2016

2017

2018

2019

Dog

No titles like women men animals or whatever

Everything other than women and men is one page. If we include the same formatting for every single section except one, and rename the tabs tabs it should work

It's quite a sight lol.

So we're back to square one. Mar, you said you had more ideas in mind, right?

I edited my previous post to include a suggestion before we switch to something else.

I was afraid the rest would be all one page, but if you are okay with continue this idea just with new names for pages and dividing the rest up, I can definitely do that . . . I should leave Cameron alone though, right, since Cameron is the only Non-Binary character to be reused.

Yeah, Andisimon's idea would work.

You can still explain what the other option/s would be in case it/they would work even better. Maybe there is a way to indicate which series are in which tab if you want to add someone and don't know which year s/he was in... But for now that method at least reduces lagging.

Most series are not only in one tab, because it's not about when the series started, but when the character appeared, so the best way is probably look up when the book they are in started. We might be able to write a message explaining that.

As for the other method, I still can't recall what it was, but I think it would have more lag than this probably does at present . . . it's crazy being able to see images this quickly, because there was lag on my desktop, too.

Now Non-Binary is the only section with no subtabs (Cameron first appeared in 2018 if we ever need to know that and Wrenn first appeared in 2019 if they ever reuse that face model).

There is still one section we haven't even started, which is MCs. Since we are doing it like this, I think we should just divide MCs into female and male on separate tabs when we get there. If there are enough of them . . . which is totally possible, when you consider some books have 6 or so different faces . . . we can divide by year.

I'm going to let this sit for now, because I have things to do offline. If you guys think this'll work, we'll stick with it. If not, then we can look into something else.

Thanks for all your hard work! It looks great!

On iPad, there are a bunch (maybe 5?) edit links per year. Not sure why.

I have been looking at the page, switching from one tab back to main page and back to a tab.in mobile version. Not sure how it currently looks in desktop version. So far no problems and especially... no lagging. So yes: thank you.

I just checked and I have two edit buttons per year in desktop version.

That seems random. I just checked and there were 6, I restarted the page and just two lol.

I also restarted the page and went from two buttons to three.... lol

And I went from three to eight. That's really nice of the wiki to offer such... a selection. lol is right.

Rofl. Sorry... *giggles* trying to be serious now... oof.

Back to recycled models: something seems to be wrong with the links in the section of Jane/Flight Attendant 1/Secret Service Detail/Clerk/Mrs. O'Malley

Fixed, I think.

I think someone wanted to link the HSS misc characters page (she's a waitress there) and not the items and then it mixed up with the next link?

I think you're right. I added the waitress.

Does Dopey cat count as animal or miscellaneous? It is a character model reused in The Elementalists (at least I don't think it was a real cameo). King crab was also reused for a video game character in LoveHacks.

I'd say animal.

Do we also put cases like Brother and Elena playing as characters from The Crown The Flame but with different names?

I think it was a real cameo of Dopey Cat, but I forget what was said as I only took that option once, so I'd have to see the wording, again. If it's clearly not, then okay. In BB the possessed doll is definitely Dopey Cat though.

I'm not recalling what you are talking about with Brother and Elena. What happened?

In a premium scene of Rules of Engagement, Brother and Elena celebrate his birthday. They play the arcade game of The Crown and The Flame. They meet Gabriel and Helene who are themselves. Brother and Elena have to help Gabriel and pick avatars. Elena always picks the Bear and calls herself Bearlena. Brother has five options to play as. The players can choose a name for him in the game. I played the game twice, once as a Stormholt soldier, once as mechataur. I could have also picked the appearance of Val or Will. Don't remember the 5th option right now.

Edit: 5th option is an Aurelian guard.

I think that sounds like we need a category under Miscellaneous (which I think we planned on and then forgot) called "Video Game Avatars". There are a few times when that comes up including ES's MW game and the lasar tag game in HSS to name two off the top of my head. Probably more and yes, I think we should have them.

Are we keeping the “Recycled” name or are you renaming it to “Lookalike”? Or did we decide a different name?

I think we we want to change it to Look-Alike. Anyone else want to weigh in?

Look-Alike sounds good.

Yep, sounds good.

Sounds like we know what we want to call it, so we should make some name changes. I think that'll have to be my job, since I think I'm the only one currently discussing this who has that ability.

So now that we have that figured out and the format figured out, I think it's time to figure out the categories we are going to put it in. Since we ended up with so many subpages, I'm wondering if we shouldn't make a "Look-Alike Face Models" category to put them all in. The subpages would all have that only and the main page would have that plus whatever else made sense, maybe either characters or miscellaneous characters, maybe groups.

Thoughts?

I vote groups. Not sure about miscellaneous characters since some are MCs and LIs.

I vote for Groups and miscellaneous characters. I don’t think adding characters category would be so great? Idk that’s how I see it.

Yeah, all the subpages should have a subpage category for easier organization.

For the main page Groups for sure, and I'd say Characters, because it includes more than misc characters. But I'll be fine with whatever you all decide.

I think groups. I don’t know about characters or miscellaneous characters since the subject is about the “models” used not really about the characters themselves (except when character “types” are used - like all waiters are Daniel, Ward, or Tony or all jerk-bosses are Martins).

How is that for a challenge? Otherwise I don’t have any challenges ;p :)

Good point. Maybe we need a new category (instead of Look-Alike Face Models which I suggested and is really long) of Character Models and make that a subcategory of Characters.

Character Models works :)

And Character Models works for me too! :D

Lol. I was joking too. Storygirl wanted a challenge so I tried my best to challenge her. At least, it’s not arm-wrestling; pretty sure I’d fail that.

Lol. I love when we don’t understand each other or the jokes! That’s the best way to agree to disagree! Ok, I’m off away for now.

Since there aren't that many children models, do you think we could keep them all on 1 page? Andisimon - would that make the mobile version lag? Or combine years? 2016 with 2017, and 2018 with 2019? Or would you like to start one for 2019? there is one boy to put on 2019 (young nik ryder who also shows up in platinum)

I divided them for mobile user's sake, so, Andisimon, this one is for you to answer. Should we put the children back on one page or should we leave them divided? And if divided, 2 pages or 4?

I'd say we should wait until the release of Mother of the Year. Most children they used so far are about 8-9 years old and we don't know how old the daughter of MC will be. My current theory, based on the cover, is that the daughter will have the same age or that we will get flashbacks to the time the daughter was about 8-9 years old. I can see several child character models making a reappearance, depending on the daughter's age...

Makes sense.

Is there anything else we need to discuss in the meantime?

Not sure. We seem to have decided to rename them Look-Alike rather than recycled and put them in two categories: "Groups" and a new category called "Character Models" which will be a subcategory of "Characters." I think that's where we are at with our decisions.

Ever since he first appeared, I thought I saw him before. I already started to think I'm crazy for not finding a match. Thanks.

Yep, that's him.

This is why we made that page, because things like this will drive people nuts.

I recognized him right away, but i forgot to tell you all... i know, i have a perfect memory. Lol

I haven't even read that far, so I first encountered him image . . . an hour ago I think and I really wasn't thinking about that. I knew he was reused, but didn't really think beyond that.

Oh, good catch! That's certainly him.

Andisimon: do you have an estimated # of images that your mobile will allow before it begins to lag?

No. I just know that the total current length of the page would be too much.

What do you think of these two? Jackson Walker and https://choices-stories-you-play.fandom.com/wiki/File:PMBk2Ch03_Male_Guard.png

Reused or just similar?

Absolutely reused. Here's the full entry: https://choices-stories-you-play.fandom.com/wiki/Recycled_Face_Models/Men_-_2018#Construction_Worker

Would he better fit under "Charlie" or under "miscellaneous"?

Miscellaneous because we have to add a pic of him to the page and there has been no one with that exact combo before, especially the hair.

He also looks like he has a chubbier/rounder face? Or I can be imagining it

Okay, I added the link to the page under misc. I am staying away from pictures, so some of you would need to take care of the rest.

I added the image to the section.

The pages have been renamed and I am working on putting the categories we decided on on them.

I just saw that when I added a reuse of Terrence. There were also a few others today but I don't want to risk interfering with your edits.

You are good to go. I only have one left and it's highly unlikely you will have any issues with it, since it's the one for Non-Binary. Everything else has names changed and categories added.

Forgot there were some other things to change, but you wouldn't have messed with those, so we're good and now all of the pages and templates are dealt with.

I added the three reuses from free path (Terrence, Mindy-Martha, Jane the waitress). There are still a few from other books that don't have a section yet and since I don't know where to put them (and I am staying away from images), those will have to wait a little more ;)

Who do they look like? I will start the sections and add the images needed if you tell me who to add. I haven't played anything new today and am only caught up in two books.

I think I left a comment on the page... would have to check because right now I only remember Harry from Wishful Thinking in Sunkissed...

I grabbed the ones you mentioned in your comment and added sections for them.

Anyone play the latest RCD chapter? Now I think a certain recycled character isn’t recycled and could be the stalker.

Nope, but I have the next stage of the Look-Alike pages started. I put images from my user page on it to get it started. We need to replace those with new files that don't have all of my character's names on them so they can go back to being safe and sound on my page. Feel free to cut them and upload them as a new file, just don't upload them over mine.

Here's the start of it. This is probably not the final form, but for now, I just want to get the files collected and organized.

Look-Alike Face Models/Female Main Characters

I think the fish is there twice now?

You're right. I fixed it. I didn't see it, because it wasn't in the right place . . . I think it's in the right place now.

Thanks :)

Short question: do the main characters remain as separate page or will you add them as subpage to the other page? Because for some reason they cannot be accessed from the main page

They have to be manually added to the main page which is, potentially, more complicated than it sounds. It kind of depends on how many we end up with. I will be adding them to the main page, but right now, I want to keep them separate so I can work on it. I'll probably add it either later today or tomorrow, but no promises, because I could forget.

Someone posted this on reddit of all the unreused MCs: https://i.redd.it/ho8yw4wbwtg31.jpg

Not sure if you saw latest blog they posted an hour ago: pixelberrystudios.com/blog/2019/8/22/diamond-rewards-and-key-timers

• 3 hour key timers
• 2 diamond Chapter rewards
• 22 hour reward timers (5 bonus diamonds per 22 hours)

I didn't, but I will go ahead and continue my plan for keys and put a hold on the plan to stop playing new chapters. In fact, I think I'd better finish a few books I haven't previously finished before they decided to change their mind again (just counted, I have six fully completed books with a total of seventeen chapters to complete and six books to catch up on with a total of thirty-three chapters for a total of fifty chapters to complete which I previously have not). I'm not thrilled that they are keeping the key thing, but it was the least objectionable part of this whole mess, so I can deal with that. Thanks for the info.

Hi. I don't find a section for Dinesh/Tariq on the page? Dinesh was reused as Mike yesterday (Bachelorette Party misc characters page). If there's no section for them yet, can you please create one?

There wasn't one, so I created one and added all three to it. A lot of the major characters aren't on there when they are only reused by another major character, because when I was doing this I mostly looked at miscellaneous pages and Jadelady mostly looked at newer characters, so there's probably others that need to be added still.

I am not StoryGirl but I already asked Jessie if he can make one.

If you are unsure about something, you should look at similar pages. If that doesn't help, you can always ask others before you start editing.

Done.

Liam Face 3 Ranch No Hat Full View.jpg

... Yes, and? I am so confused. I see no spelling error. I use the library card system of cataloguing lists, which is where any The, A, or An is removed from the name and put at the end preceded by a comma in order to allow for them to be alphabetical excluding articles. Is that what you are referring to?

Oh yes, I thought it was an error

Ah. Well, that's what's going on there. If you look at the rest of the page, I do that a lot on there. Thanks for trying to help. If it had been an error, I definitely would have wanted to know about it.

Deleting images is something only staff can do. As far as I know this is default for wikias/fandom, so give me the link for what you want to delete and I will delete it for you.

I checked and I found the image that you wanted deleted and did so.

Thanks

Could I add this as trivia for The Junior as well?

I would contact Fearless Diva about that one. She's more involved in that part of the wikia than I am.

I've heard people talk about Episodes and Chapters on here and a couple others, including one that is only available in certain regions. I don't see any issue with discussing them, just don't go posting it on people's walls unless you are in discussion with them and it comes up naturally or on pages where it doesn't make sense. Your best options would be making a blog post about it or making a thread in the discussion area.

One thing you can't discuss is ways to break the game and any hacks you find for it. Not only does the staff here disapprove of that, but Pixelberry is aware of our wikia and we don't want them to think we are endorsing such things. Besides that, they are risky and have the potential to give you viruses.

Not that I am saying you are discussing such things, but since you were asking if you could talk about something, I figured I would let you know something you can't talk about just in case.

What are some of the games you are talking about? I know I am curious. I've not decided to get any of the ones I have heard of (though I did try with one and couldn't get it because my iPad is too old), but I am always looking for new stories to read.

well there are a lot from Winter Wolves which are really cool

I checked and beause of some censorship issues their account was banned on Google Play but their games are still available on ios, i hope it will get solved soon because me and other people prefer to play it on our phone

Btw I didn't get a notification about your response and I asked another admin not long ago, i hope it's not a problem

Shouldn't be a problem. You can edit your message to let him know that you also messaged me (or just another admin) if you like, but I don't see it being a problem.

I assume Winter Wolves is a company that puts out these books. I do have an iPad, so I'll take a look and see if I can find them.

Updated: Not finding anything. Maybe if I tried looking for a specific title?

https:/apps.apple.com/us/app/roommates-visual-novel/id827116639

This is one of the apps I talked about in the discussion post, I had to wrote it not copy-paste because I am on my phone

That worked. I downloaded it and I will check it out when I have time. Sounds potentially interesting.

There are more and most are gender-of-choice, there are some which have a female lead but there is also one with a male lead and 4 male LIs, I really liked it

I think all of them can be downloaded as a demo and then you can unlock the full version if you want to pay for the full game

Gotcha. I'm not super into the romance end of the games, so I hope there is more to it than just the romancing of LIs.

Thanks for that info. I added them onto the page.